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tradiition
Of the main monasteries which is the most traditional. less modern? Thanks
I think Konstamonitou
I think Konstamonitou monastery is the least modernized. It is in the north of the peninsula, almost cut off/
least traditional
Simonopetra, Vatopedi are most modern, no spirituality.
Russian?
What about the Russian?
Russian monastery holds on to
Russian monastery holds on to traditions, true Orthodoxy.
The spirituality exists in Vatopedi and Simonos Petra
I strongly believe to think that Simonospetra and Vatopedi have no spirituality. On the contrary Elder Joseph was making homilies regularly and many monks were following his paths at Vatopedi, while in Simonos Petra, the various horizons where come from the monks created a new dynamic in the enhancement of spirituality!
Simonopetra monastery has a
Simonopetra monastery has a break, no continuity in "agioritiki" spiriuality. It started in 1973 by a self taught monk from Athens. His successor, the present abbot, igoumenos, is his friend who is also self taught.
very hard for an American to
very hard for an American to make contact with Orthodoxy. Simonopetra has parted from Agioritic spirit in its modern revival by Aimilianos.
Athonite monasticism is a
Athonite monasticism is a Greek, Slav, middle east affair.
Athonite monasticism is a
Athonite monasticism is a Greek, Slav, middle east affair.
also Iviron, also Xenophontos
also Iviron, also Xenophontos, alas
Do you know a spiritual
Do you know a spiritual geronda at a kalyvi? I want to become monahos.
look around in Kafsokalyvia
look around in Kafsokalyvia
Father Symeon at
Father Symeon at Kafsokalyvia. I have lost contact. He was probable persecuted for not submitting to give up athonite orthodoxy.
και εγω το ιδιο me too.
και εγω το ιδιο me too. Ο ηγουμενος στη μονη Παυλου εχει χαρισμα! the abbot at Pavlou monastery!
Father Parthenios
Orthodoxy itself! has God's gift! very old now. Probably the last Orthodox agiorite abbot.
Yes, Father Parthenios
Yes, Father Parthenios has a gift from God but he is very old now/
Πατριάρχης
Ο Πατριάρχης βλάπτει το Αγιον Ορος?
you asked if the Patriarch
you asked if the Patriarch (Vartholomeos) causes damage to Agion Oros.
He has turned the Holy Mountain into heretics, and persecuted those who resisted.
Stavronikita
Stavronikita monastery is small and poor and kind of hidden from the world. I want to know more. Anyone has experiences please share. Thanks
Abbot is a Harvard man.
Abbot is a Harvard man.
Against Athonite Orthodoxy.
Against Athonite Orthodoxy.
God experiemce
How can I have a religious experience? I cannot go to Athos. Can I chat with a monk?
This is not an easy task. You
This is not an easy task. You can seek advice from Orthodox monks, however you should be prepared for a long difficult journey. You may begin here:
https://athosforum.org/Hesychasm-Holy-Mountain-Athos
Read this
Stay away from popular accounts about miracles and silly monks. Start here
https://books.google.gr/books?id=Ns9TEQAAQBAJ&newbks=0&printsec=frontcov...
The most direct way to
The most direct way to experience Athonite Orthodoxy is to listen to monk cantors, psaltres.
https://athosforum.org/What-is-Psaltic-Art
Listen to kekragaria and pray along with Firfiris and Makavos
https://athosforum.org/Kekragarion-in-Athonite-psaltic-Art
Develop the Athonite esthetic.
Who were the desert fathers?
Who were the desert fathers?
Who was St Nilus?
Who was St Nilus?
see God
Do the monks of Athos see God?
No one has seen God ever.
No one has seen God ever. Read this https://www.google.gr/books/edition/Deus_Absconditus_The_Hidden_God/JGsu...
Latinophrones
Which Athonite monasteries are Latinophrone?
Hesychast of today
Are there hesychasts on Athos today> Who? Where?
There is one in Vigla near
There is one in Vigla near Megisti Lavra.
banished God
It seems to me the monks have banished God from Athos.
No, Athos is a sacred place.
No, Athos is a sacred place.
Correct, it is a sacred place
Correct, it is a sacred place. What I meant was the fact that mostly worship Virgin Mary and other monks (saints( rather than God.
The worship of bones of dead
The worship of bones of dead monks detracts spirituality from Orthodox Athos. Also depiction of God. Islam is free of such practices.
Yes, that is the bitter truth
Yes, that is the bitter truth!
Can Muslims visit Athos?
Can Muslims visit Athos?
Yes Muslims may visit Mt
Yes Muslims may visit Mt Athos.
OCA Church
Can a priest of OCA (Orthodox Church of America) participate in liturgy on Athos?
How can I visit Esfigmenou
How can I visit Esfigmenou the rebel monastery?
Not these days, a military
Not these days, a military operation cooking up.
You break the law, if you
You break the law, if you visit Esphigmenou. To visit you should go to Thessaloniki and make contact with supporters of the monastery. You should be prepared to walk in the forest at night. By the way, the monks of Esphigmenou are not rebel, they and the monks of the Russian monastery are holding on to Orthodoxy as dictated in the church documents.
Dionysios the Calligrapher in the 18th century
Where does this name appear in the records? How can i find more information on him?
See reply
Please see reply at https://athosforum.org/comment/129#comment-129
Thank you
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Hi, I edited my longish comment, mostly to correct an error and a typo, and then it vanished.
Perhaps you need to reapprove?
Of course, you can delete this comment.
Thanks!
Steven
Which monasteries refuse the
Which monasteries refuse the heretic actions of the ecumenical Patriarch?
Resist. Konstamonitou,
Resist. Konstamonitou, Xeropotamou, Karakallou.
Not really. The only
Not really. The only traditional monastery is Konstamonitou, but that is changing too.
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